tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post2920766515444543471..comments2011-11-25T21:34:03.622-06:00Guantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02587613638497439451noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-57775484067447447212011-11-25T18:55:21.075-06:002011-11-25T18:55:21.075-06:00I think the problem here is way too many people are stuck on what people think of them. A lot of people are scared to stick up for gay people because they&#39;re afraid it&#39;ll make them look gay. And a lot of other people are writing stuff they think people want to hear, stuff that&#39;s easy to write - I&#39;m all for freedom of speech, and I admit some rappers I listen to have some anti-feminist anti-gay bullshit lyrics, but at some point it&#39;s annoying as hell and you wonder when these guys are gonna grow up.writernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-81128790955847635372011-07-25T04:15:24.723-05:002011-07-25T04:15:24.723-05:00&quot;The inherent weakness and fallacy in your argument is that you ASSUME that a person cannot intellectually disagree with homosexuality, that is where your argument ultimately fails. You can oppose bigotry against homosexuals without personally agreeing with homosexuality.&quot;<br /><br />I chuckled a little. Let&#39;s play around with this statement a little and see how it works with other dimensions of human identity. For instance substitute for homosexuality... disability. &quot;We can intellectually disagree with disability... oppose bigotry against those with disabilities without personally agreeing with disability.&quot;<br /><br />Yes, most definitely... oppose the disability &quot;lifestyle&quot; intellectually...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-180942530167375202011-07-04T16:40:57.272-05:002011-07-04T16:40:57.272-05:00&quot;You can oppose bigotry against homosexuals without personally agreeing with homosexuality.&quot;<br /><br />I couldn&#39;t help but laugh at that. And yes S1, you are a homophobe. Sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-30980906716967268702009-08-06T14:34:39.998-05:002009-08-06T14:34:39.998-05:00&quot;The bottom line, particularly for those who consider themselves progressives or radicals, is that homophobia, aside from being morally wrong and flat-out ignorant, is counterrevolutionary. “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” Rappers can claim anti-government, or pro-black, or pro-social justice or whatever all they want, but if they’re casually throwing around anti-gay slurs then they’re directly participating in the oppression of a significant portion of the world population.&quot; <br /><br />Love it. Powerful words. Great Post.MN accenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05735711564751790566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-91984572285869969782009-06-22T12:36:59.971-05:002009-06-22T12:36:59.971-05:00I appreciate your stand and your humility. I also appreciate the fact you will be joining us at The Depot for Hop Hop Against Homophobia!!<br /><br />An army of lovers cannot fail!J.C. Hartsighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16204376030418200140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-15636104307044459792009-05-03T22:44:00.000-05:002009-05-03T22:44:00.000-05:00Hey, I just found this on Google. Thanks for writing it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-2271229994410396992009-04-01T12:24:00.000-05:002009-04-01T12:24:00.000-05:00-could someone clean up these comments and delete all this spam?<BR/>thank you-<BR/><BR/>Thank you for writing this guante, i feel that this is one of those issue's that is talked about from time to time and minds can be changed, people can get pumped about, and then no actual change occours, and people continue to indoctrinate the minds with subtle or obvious inhuman homophobic lyrics. 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Of course, the question is how disassociated can it really be? But that factor at least needs to be addressed. <BR/><BR/>Finally "Deep Dickolective" ?!? I don't think so, they could be the dopest lyricists ever but they'll get no play from me, does this make me homophobic? I don't think so, in fact it's just an expression of my own (heterosexual) sexual preference which you can't degrade as bigoted if you don't want to be degraded for homesexual preference. <BR/><BR/>The inherent weakness and fallacy in your argument is that you ASSUME that a person cannot intellectually disagree with homosexuality, that is where your argument ultimately fails.<BR/><BR/>You can oppose bigotry against homosexuals without personally agreeing with homosexuality. <BR/><BR/>This is a distinction that you (and many others) fail to acknowledge and in the process you fail to reach people that would be receptive to a purely anti-bigotry argument. <BR/><BR/>PEACE.<BR/><BR/>S1S1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-835054403173815932007-09-21T20:28:00.000-05:002007-09-21T20:28:00.000-05:00Thanks for the nice post!Michaelhttp://free-ps3-for-me.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-45642928634703753542007-09-11T13:36:00.000-05:002007-09-11T13:36:00.000-05:00Thanks to author! 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I enjoyed it a lot and think you are absolutely spot on in the analysis.Stevenhttp://stevenwhite.typepad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-2914685379809982322007-02-19T12:50:00.000-06:002007-02-19T12:50:00.000-06:00Thanks for writing this article El Guante. How can a radical hip-hop be conscious and revolutionary with outdated morals on sexuality? It cannot be and you summed it up really well.<BR/><BR/><BR/>As to the previous homophobic comment - homosexuality belongs to history and present of any people's upon this Earth, more or less suppressed in patriarchal, top to bottom imposed social orders. What must be even scarier to homophobes is that we all are naturally bi-sexual, obviously to different degrees that become expressed/explored. Connecting homosexuality to race is unsupportable both historically and scientifically. A society permissive of homosexuality is no more or less comprising of people who prefer their own gender than one that socially hides it and represses it. Homosexuality transcends the borders he mistakenly ascribes it to. Neither I don't understand why he chooses Greeks as the sample of 'faggots' of the history of 'whites' - if we go to ancient Greek empire we find that the ethnic composure of Greece is so mixed that to talk about example of ‘white’ history is questionable to say the least. In its peak Greek civilisation spread from today's geographical Greece right up to Egypt and the Hindu Kush mountains. We have here therefore a real mixture of Libyan, Turkish and Levant (mostly Arabic and Jewish), Vlach, Slavic, Albanian etc people's making up the ethnic picture of the Ancient Greece. To get back to this strange ascribing to racial purity theory that the previous anon post stinks of - scientifically there's no such thing as racial purity. Therefore terms like 'black', 'white' etc are outdated racist shite when used in such derogatory way. Without a surprise Nazis justified their final solution racist policies on pretext of Jewish peoples perversion and flaws given by their ethnicity. Without a surprise they tried to prove their racist policies against gypsies by cooking up how their history points to their ‘tendency’ to be ‘criminals’. Without surprise white supremacists will justify their hate by cooking up how perverse and flawed the non – whites are. <BR/><BR/>And no, I’m not saying let’s get wipe all the slate clean and forget who delivered suffering to another and how. But to perpetuate it is perpetuating the wrongs of the past.<BR/><BR/> I have to break it to those who hang to racist ideas - we all come from the same ancestor. The human family is one and the same, whatever colour of our skin. The mutation of the colour of the skin is not something that genetically offsets us as different from each other. It's no different than having blue or green eye - the make up of the eye is genetically the same; it only comes down to mutation of the original gene passed down via ancestors. There are only 18 of the said genetic variants and to beat the point home - they're mutation of the common genetic ancestor who is the same to us all, regardless of the mutations acquired during the ages. The fact that we have interbred between the different mutations of the original genes doesn't change the thing upon the fact that human family is one and the same. And it destroys racist presumptions even more. <BR/><BR/> In African cultures that left a significant historical record we also see homosexuality. <BR/><BR/> People who are selling themselves to hate as homophobia or racism or sexism are victims of divisive factors crippling the collective consciousness and condition of humanity and as such are reactionary. Dictating whom falls in love with whom and what happens in the privacy of their sex lives is authoritarian reactionary and backwards brainwash. Calling things right and wrong on bases of religious dogma is a certain resistance to learn about one's own humanity and thus a strength of his/hers own compassion for other human beings he/she shares the world with on bases of humanistic integrity rather than accepted thought. A thought that for ages acted as an assesory to oppression, repression and division. That served as an apologist for the rich oppressing the poor and apologist for the colonists and imperialists to offer<BR/>a 'choice' of their holy text and faith or the bullet/death for the indigenous populations and to set people fighting between each other rather than their real sources of oppression, alienation, discrimination and poverty - those who whispered the poisonous opiates of religion and ideological dogmas based on inequality and exploitation.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/> If Tech and the blatantly homophobic commenter believe that hip-hop is about proving manhood and being homophobic is the way to do so then all they are doing is proving that hip-hop is not just reactionary but scared to grow up to have its own values instead of cultural and religious prejudices.<BR/>Just as Malik's moral judgements rest on the ignorance fed by religion, the hypothesis he offered rest on ignorance of history and science. Hardly shocking.<BR/><BR/>Edited and reposted for few correctionsInsurrectionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17679738912520448380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-65075507955399034632007-02-19T11:50:00.000-06:002007-02-19T11:50:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Insurrectionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17679738912520448380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-67396616440157124272007-02-16T18:33:00.000-06:002007-02-16T18:33:00.000-06:00FAGGOTS AND HIP HOP DO NOT MIX. LIKE TECH SAID HIP HOP HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT SHOWING AND PROVING YOUR MANHOOD. IF YOU'RE TAKING COCKS UP THE ASS AND YOU'RE A MAN YOU HAVE NO PLACE IN HIP HOP. HAVING SEX WITH MEN IS WHAT FEMALES DO, SO BY DOING SO AS A MAN YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A FEMALE AND THATS NOT HIP HOP. ANOTHER THING IS HIP HOP IS A BLACK THING, ALWAYS HAS BEEN ALWAYS WILL BE AND IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY HOMOSEXUALITY IS FROWNED UPON. IT IS THE WHITE MAN WHO SAYS ITS OKAY TO BE GAY. IF YOU LOOK AT WHITES HISTORY THEY WERE THE FIRST HOMOSEXUALS. JUST LOOK AT THE GREEKS THEY WERE ALL FAGGOTS! THE FACT ABOUT IT IS HOMOSEXUALITY IS A PERVERSION OF THE WORST KIND. YOU CANNOT JUSTIFY IT. ITS COMPLETLY UNNATURAL BEHAVIOR. ITS WRONG. SOME PEOPLE ARE WICKED AND THEIR BRAINS ARE INFECTED BY DEVILS. ALL OF THEIR THOUGHTS ARE WICKED. HOMOSEXUALS ARE WICKED. AS A PERSON YOU MUST HAVE SELF CONTROL AND UNDERSTAND WRONG FROM RIGHT. HOMOSEXUALS CLEARLY DO NOT HAVE ANY SELF CONTROL AND DO NOT CARE IF WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS WRONG IN THE EYES OF GOD SO THEY WILL BE SEVERLY PUNISHED.<BR/>--- MALIKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-40053330349302662902007-02-16T13:36:00.000-06:002007-02-16T13:36:00.000-06:00Thank you for this article... <BR/><BR/>Not only are your ideas right on and actually "conscious" but you've given us a piece that is well written and substantiated, something I can pass on in the activist and academic worlds.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for being a part of radical change...Sushi Bunnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12640513421114712561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8264223.post-44428599394395711842007-02-13T14:27:00.000-06:002007-02-13T14:27:00.000-06:00El Guante. Thank you for this very well done, thoughtful, educational writing. <BR/><BR/>It takes absolutely no strength, no greatness to go along the grain. 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